The firearms community will be better without them. Glad I waited. Springfield Armory, Rock River Arms Trade Opposition to Illinois FFL Licensing Scheme for Carve-Out. Tony- IFMA is SAs and RRAs lobbying firm(as opposed to an existing firm that SA hired. Asit should. I have been casually looking at getting a 1911. is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Or companies selling imported crap that pretend to be American. And now a sell out. thats what Illinois is hoping for stand our ground, Springfield got me right in my Grip Zone with this move, bu-bye SA. As for Springfield Armory, Im really sorry to see them cross over to the dark side. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. Allexcept for gun owners and the non-big box store gun dealers who have to live and work in the Land of Lincoln. Low character move. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. Henry and Ruger for the win. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Today, we have nearly one dozen gun control groups working in Illinois. I live in Illinois. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. The more concentrated the producers and sellers of firearms becomes the easier it will be to controlled and monitored. Ben Franklin once said, If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately.. Pennsylvania checking in. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. But thats only a fraction of his treachery. If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you They spent weeks trying to gin up interest in the XD-E introduction with their mysterious ads, and it was all for nothing. No further recommendation about the products will be made. Accurate and precise for While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. If you want to scope your BM 59, there is a company that makes a direct over the bore scope kit for Garands that fits the BM59. After the next civil war, we wont allow another one. Initially I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but after I thought about Reeses statement, and now that Ive seen Larsons statement, I would have liked to see hecklers run Springfields employees right out of Atlanta. If anyone from SAs Corporate Communications department happens upon this post, please get this in front of Dennis Reese and let him know that his actions are shameful, and that he has just traded his honor for a paycheck. Never sold out to foreign companies or parts sources or manufacturing or skimped on quality control. Oh, hell no, he told me. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. Henry and Ruger get my votes for Americas Gunmakers. Well, said. (And I can guarantee he would never speak to me like that in person.). Great gun. Im not buying a damn thing from Springfield and there is NO EXPIRATION DATE ON THAT. Make it a campaign issue NOW. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. Mostly out of states with onerous laws and heavy taxation. Ive never had better customer service with any other business. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? This will damage Springfield Armorys brand nation-wide, in a business where reputation is everything. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! My sprinters were not seeing much action lately. An American voting for a Democrat Performance Tuned. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber (Rock River Arms)[14] or the ArmaLite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm NATO and .223 Remington equally well. Good luck! ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. If youve already implemented them, great. Companies move all the time. We beat back a similar bill last year. Id bet a bunch of employees would jump at the chance go move from IL to TN or MO or TX. Maybe thats the case in many instances, but its not like the IFMA has thousands of members. First, they co-opt the name of a famous military armory to start a business with absolutely no ties to the original Springfield. I would sell the xd .45 and the xdm 9mm I already have but I dont think there is much of a market for them now. Nothing Springfield will ever be in my collection now. From what I gathered from this article and all the information I viewed about this organization its hard to say just how much control SA and RRA has over the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. We will support our Illinois brethren and NOT purchase anything from Springfield Armory or RRA. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. Maybe there is a Mrs. Reese or someone or something burning cash on the side (gambling, drugs, who knows) that is consuming profit faster than SA can generate it. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. They ignored it. Personally hate to hear whenever CEOs or head honchos make public decisions costing their employees jobs/money. Not everyone reads TTAG or keeps up with this sort of in the weeds stuff. LAR 8 is a nice weapon. We need the pistols to get to our rifles anyway. As far as the betrayal, bear in mind that it was the act of a couple of people and unfortunately there are plenty of freedom loving 2nd Amendment supporters working for SA that will be harmed by their bad judgement. Boom. Was very interested in this new pistol too as a possible single-stack semi-auto alternative to my J-frame. More recently, they do this big Saint countdown/reveal that just ends up being Another Entry-Level AR-15, just what the market needed. Are they doing town halls? Beretta kicked Maryland to the curb for their ridiculous gun laws. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. I hate to say this Tony, but you are completely clueless about lobbyists. And theyre telling their friends. they should have fought not laid over. Its like trying to work with Bloomberg himself. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. In short, this means rifle-makers need to adapt, and one company taking that step is Rock River Arms (RRA) with its LAR-15 Operator III in 5.56mm NATO. Nobody moves a company to New York (Remington has moved most out). I bought my first Rock Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. The innovation and embracing of modern ideas weve seen the last 10yrs (MSRs, suppressors, polymer everything, etc) never would have happened under Bill. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. (Im a 30 yr Vet). It might not have, but then again, if Senator Harmon didnt think it wouldnt have gotten himthat last vote or two he needed, he wouldnthave offered the deal. If that hurts a company whos sold you out, good. Either dont have any or I overpay to have the stock and have it at a price that everyone individual doesnt want to buy the whole lot at once. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. Rock Rivers AR builds are superb, and they come in at a price thats quite reasonable (starting at $1,585). 3) Lobbyist got paid by someone else to convince his clients this was a slick deal. Rock River Arms is one of the largest manufacturers of AR-15 rifles in the United States. If I was a competitor, Id print up ten thousand flyers announcing Springfields decision and carpet the show with them. Chill out and stop trying to ruin a great company. No, they stood by and let their customers get screwed. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. Rock River LAR-8 .308. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Pieces, Quote of the Day: The Johnny Appleseed of Ghost Guns, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, State, Federal Lawmakers Trying to Put the Brakes On Credit Card Companies Tracking Firearm Purchases, Chicagos Failed Mayor Lori Lightfoot Loses in Reelection EffortBadly, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Repeating_Arms_Company#Early_history, http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. I would move EVERYTHING 25 miles West to Davenport Iowa. Smith and Ruger more than compensated for erroneous thinking. For folks like me, it is no longer enough to be willing to fight and die for these rights, but to be willing to kill for them as well. Because of rumors of canceled orders. This is income tax refund time. People are watching everything the government and companies are doing now. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. No Springfield guns for me. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Perhaps a company thought they could pull a fast one and nobody would notice. After the 2004 sunset of the Assault Weapons Ban, AR pistols developed rapidly and have become popular. If one of them didnt actually know about this then thats really not fair. I just bought an EMP 3-inch. Its sad but it happens. Wasnt there big stink couple years ago about so called kitchen table FFLs not realy conducting business for living and just getting wholesale pricing on guns for themselves and their family members? I.e., Target blamed climate change on revenue misses. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Other places have them for $200.00. The company makes a wide variety of weapons, including AR-15 and M16 rifles, as well as pistols, shotguns, and bolt-action rifles. Customer service beyond any reproach. Were pulling out of IFMA and regret that this happened. But Illinois only has about 2.1m gun owners of 12m population thats fewer by a significant margin than the number of hard-core urban Dems in Chicago alone. Several other really good CCs out there too if you want one of the big mfgs. See below for more information. Obviously Springfield and others have not learned this lesson and are going down the same road. The RRA LAR-15 is a quality gun, in just about any configuration you can come up with. Hes totally grasping at straws on that point in his video. With support like that, who needs Everytown? When S&W is in the position to potentially block anti-gun legislation but decides not to because it is better for their business even if it screws their customers, THEN YOU WILL SEE ME call for an S&W boycott. Having this blow up the day before a brand-new product launch at the NRA convention is basically the exact opposite of fortuitous timings for Springfield. That alone is enough to put them out of business. IMO, this last election postponed the literal civil war Ive been advocating for for over 10 years. Web50%. To whom will they sell? I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. IFMAs Keller testified in March at the Illinois Senate Judiciary committee of his willingness to consider dropping the lobbying groupsopposition to the bill if his clients were exempted. They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. Im sorry, I mean they would ask after putting you and your fliers in the dumpster. Keyboard commandos wont fight it out on any battlefield. When I contacted Springfield about getting some spare magazines for my M1A, they told me they wouldnt sell to me because I lived in New York. The licensing fee? By the time most of them have and Springfield Arms starts looking for a new home, they wont be welcome there. So I have to ask. Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. When the Maryland Leftistlature passed the odious Gun Safety Act of 2013, making it illegal to purchase many of the firearms made by the venerable Beretta concern, they responded by building their new facility in Tennessee, giving Maryland a stalwart raised middle finger and taking a considerable amount of tax revenue with them.. Ive not the least doubt that the rest of Beretta will eventually follow. Brownells, Midway, Primary arms, Rainer, Wing Tactical, and SG Ammo are my favorite online retailers. This would appear to be financial suicide by Springfield. Not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but check out Fulton Armory: http://www.fulton-armory.com/M14-Rifles.aspx. You and your mindset are one of the problems with this country. The response was to Mark about the others being vastly superior, not your comment. RRA will wind up being an LE only shop. The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. And whats worse, if it passes, Bloomberg will attempt to duplicate this legislation in all 50 states. Local politicians always give tax incentives to move. As I said on Thursday, when it comes to RRA I was, and still am, unsure if they had any foreknowledge of what was about to occur. I look at their site and the parts were available from the same warehouses at a higher price. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Id like to see Springfield make a correction here but it might be too late for that. As the old adage goes, put up or shut up. The owners at S&W that colluded with Clinton paid the price for it. That doesnt change whats actually been proven that was three years ago. Maybe the deal was the result ofa lobbyist gone rogue. Dont know what will replace the EMP4 but I bet the TRP itch gets scratched by a Dan Wesson. Youre welcome to come visit and help during the next election cycle. This is why I said should not will. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. You ask what was Springfield supposed to do? Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Rock River Arms guarantees this pistol will shoot 2.5-inch groups at 50 yards with 185-grain Federal Gold Medal Match semi-wadcutter ammo. Peoplr lose jobs, get divorced, buy better guns and so on. So, youre not buying a bunch of Springfields new pistols? I asked one. Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. We picked up a few seats last fall, but that simply moved the average ideology of the Dem members further left in our state legislature. Divide & conquer. But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. You would answer your own question if you noticed my opening remark: Ruger was making superior quality products using totally American resources. Specifications and Features: Rock River Arms AR-15 Magazine AR0116N30 .223 Remington and 5.56 NATO 30 Round Capacity Anti-Tilt Follower Proven Reliability When I explained that sales were still legal before the SAFE Act deadline went into force, they still refused. An EMP 4 WAS the next scheduled buy.. not anymore, never again. Theres no way to know for sure. They mustve been channeling Bill Ruger. If discounted to $0, maybe. AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. I have to say this really makes me mad. That said, this just breaks my heart to see this moron Reese damage the brand. Its easy for consumers to march elsewhere, skilled Illinois tradespeople may not be so lucky. We need more FFLs down here so there will be some competition. These lobbyists arent in business to protect gun owners or the Second Amendment. God Bless America, As a dealer I will no longer suggest either one of these firearm companies to my customers or stock them there are many other fine firearms on the market. Which would help with elimination if in the future. I thought it was great that they were living in the same liberal hell hole that I was living in. I dont think youre using that word right. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Fred Eichler Predator 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle $ Remove from Compare Add to Compare. Have you not been following this story? They rebrand the HS2000 as the XD and jack up the price $200. Might see if you can find one to test out. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. This is how capitalism works. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. Pick something and follow it. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. Huh? It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. F them. After Bill Ruger died, Ruger also dramatically changed direction. Most places, its still over $1500. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. Find gray, black, tan, alpine and other finishes on these .223 Rem / 5.56mm, .450 Bushmaster or 6.8 SPC chambered rifles. If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. I buy and shoot a lot of guns, and this includes SA models, but I have put them on notice that I will never buy another unless they make this right. Enjoy shooting it, and the second one if you buy one. I dont have anything from either of the turncoat manufacturers and based on their actions, I never will. How is he still employed? WebRock River Arms LAR-15 Lightweight Mountain Rifle | MT1800X 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), 16" Chrome-Moly Lightweight BBL, Semi-Automatic, 6-Position Black Stock, Black Finish, RRA Lightweight, 30+1 Rds. I hope they go out of business and leave the dishonesty to our opponents. Do they somehow know the licensing scheme is going to be corrupt or extremely expensive? Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. No more. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. I own or have owned a number of AR's, including a couple of LaRue's, a KAC, a PWS and a POF. I hear you on that Ruger. The Illinois Manufacturers Association will continue to fight and protect not only manufacturers, but dealers and the gun owner as well.. Didnt you read this article? This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. He supported this legislation, (by not opposing it) that LIMITS CIVILIANS TO 9 FIREARM TRANSFERS PER YEAR!!!! James Jeffrey, the author's friend, Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. They must be put out of business for their treachery. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. it That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. Somehow, I get the idea the House will be a cakewalk for any anti-gun bill compared to the Senate, which this one has already passed. We are not obligated to honor a price that is in print or an error. Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. They pulled the same crap for the Clinton ban, Amen almost bought a springfield I agree with you to hell with them sig glock ruger for me here on out. Its GENESEO and its still about 3 hours from Chicago. Ive gotten good deals and free shipping on Handguards from CTD. I agree. I considered buying an XDs when I was looking for a conceal carry, glad I bought something else. I bought 6 smith & wessons before I ever knew about the incident. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! Never bought anything Springfield Armory, never will! Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. Rock River Arms is an American manufacturer of firearms that was founded in 1996. I am happy with my Polytech. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Dont need it, but I kinda like it. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. I really wanted a trp and a cqb but oh well will get something from another manufacturer. Ruger today is a strong supporter of everything 2A. Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? Of course lobbyists have the highest ethical standards, so thats just crazy talk. And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. But when you have a muti million dollar company thats set up in a state thats you cant just pick up and move then you do what you have to do to survive. If your going to bash or boycott one then bash and boycott all. Anyway, at least for now, I will bide my time and see if Springfield repents and takes positive actions to atone for their irrational IL acts. There should be a hall of shame for betrayals (and later repentances) by gun companies. So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. Just to be clear, they are using the name of the original company of Springfield, but they are not located in the city of Springfield. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Thats bad math and bad leadership. At least Henry, like Ruger, is 100% American. Compare. Thanks a bunch pricks! Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. Henry? But it will be history at my house. Layoffs to follow. Pretty small and isolated country town. WebRock River Arms RAGE AR-15 Rifle 5.56 Nato / .223 Rem, 16" BBL, 6 Position Stock, M-LOK Free Float Rail, 30 Round, LAR-15M - Model DS1850 Carbine. Both Ruger and S&W learned from their mistakes, I do not know if these two can. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Absolutely love them. They ONLY DO WHAT THEIR CLIENTS TELL THEM TO DO. January 2023. Weve got three very active groups on the ground in Illinois promoting GOTV campaigns and spreading the word. 3/18/2013. chamber also differ from the 5.56 mm NATO chamber I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. This Rock River PCC shows itself to be a well-engineered carbine ready to work (and look good doing it). You can learn to make good parts on a CNC a lot faster than on a Bridgeport or SouthBend. I am still trying to figure out how best to get rid of my XD-40 and assist in flooding the market with used XD pistols. The LWRC, DD and BCM are ALL over $1300. Even being on this site makes you a hypocrite because TTAG regularly advertised for Glock, S&W and Springfield. +1, they are a bunch of liars praying on the ignorant. The rifle comes fully loaded with a Rock River two-stage That should be true. I think probably not. The future for firearms manufacturers is less than certain due to falling demand and moving a 50year old corporation like SA out of state is a huge expenditure. It is the fault of the people in Illinois. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Same here. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. RRA and Mr Larson are the only ones who can make a reliable AR-10. Ruger didnt compromise, they wrote the AWA and betrayed every American gun owner in a most serious way. Just as its equally acceptable for folks like me to attempt to boycott them into bankruptcy. Springfield, on the other hand, has gone silent. The Ruger is berween $6-700. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. But theyve already heard from their customers about the IFMA sell-out. An XD and its in .40? What opinion? So, if youre looking for a cheap AR-15, Rock River Arms probably isnt the best option. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. Its their prerogative. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? Shocking I know. No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. Frankly, Im wondering how Im going to sell my existing inventory.. This just proves that point. Cancelled orders? It happens ALL THE TIME, and with companies much larger than RRA. You cannot exempt large businesses from onerous regulations that you impose on small businesses. Theyre both stuck now. Probably hard now to sell it for half what you paid if at all. WebRock River Arms creates high quality rifles and pistols on the AR platform. For those who missed it, we broke the story late Thursday evening. Up yours Springfield! AR-15 Parts. Springfield Armorys Defend your legacy has a huge hypocritical meaning now. So in a nutshell Ruger and Springfield are now on the list. Springfield for intention; RRA for negligence. Its real easy for you people to bash a company when you dont own shit. RRA should be punished too. Anytown on I80 feels like the Chicago area to the downstaters. My target is when my oldest daughter graduates from high school. Sorry for the spelling error. Might want to rethink Ruger as well. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Bad for RRA and SAI in business to protect gun owners and the non-big box store dealers. 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